how many lies?

Category: Dating and Relationships

Post 1 by tear drop (No longer looking for a prince, merely a pauper with potential!!!!!) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 18:21:40

How much is one partner supposed to put up with, and when should it end?
When do the lies, misstrust, and critisisms become more then one can handle?

Post 2 by yankee g wolverine (Account disabled) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 19:01:14

I believe that is specific to each individual.
personally, when I am in a relationship, I attempt to refrain from lying most of the time. I mean, on occasion it's sometimes necessary, but those times are few and far between.
as for mistrust and all the others, I don't think you can consider yourself in a good relationship if you don't even have the ability to trust your partner.

Post 3 by sparkie (the hilljack) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 20:11:20

If I feel or find that my partner is telling a bunch of lies, she's gone. It takes 3 or more lies and if they are constant that's when I draw the line.
Troy

Post 4 by SingerOfSongs (Heresy and apostasy is how progress is made.) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 21:02:31

Like Yankee said, I don't think there's a number that you can assign to it, but trust is an integral part of a relationship. If you don't have that, It's pretty hard, IMHO, to have a relationship

Post 5 by Meka (carpe Diem!) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 21:20:47

I agree with the others here. It can be hard to put an end to anything, especially when you really care for someone, and things tend to sound easier than they actually are. Lying tends to be about something more deep-seated, like insecurity. If things cannot be resolved by talking with them, I don't think anyone should have to sit there and just take being criticized or lied to, and as the others said, trust is truly the foundation for a relationship. If you cannot trust your partner, then the foundation is very, very shaky.

Post 6 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 21:24:24

By the time you feel the need to complain about it on a public message boards you're probably way past the point where you should have broken it off.

Post 7 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 22-Jul-2006 21:44:00

I agree with Meka and Wildebrew. Lieing is one of those things that greatly damages trust, which is difficult to build up and easy to destroy. Lieing really doesn't serve a purpose in the long run. Better to just talk about whatever it is, or at least say that you can't talk about whatever now and either can't talk about it at all or would be willing to discuss it later.

Post 8 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Sunday, 23-Jul-2006 11:13:45

for the most part, i don't like liars, but i also agree with yankee in that it's necessary sometimes. as far as trust, it's a huge part of the relationship i'm in, and i can't say i'm in a good relationship unless i trust my bf completely, and he does the same for me.

Post 9 by Marissapc2010 (Zone BBS is my Life) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 2:03:00

Trust, I think is one of the most important things in a relationship I want someone reliable, and who considers me reliable. Its what makes a relationship strong.

Post 10 by Meka (carpe Diem!) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 7:19:12

I just read two posts that advocate that it's alright to lie sometimes in a relationship. I'm curious as to what the circumstances have to be in order for a lie to be okay or necessary?

Post 11 by Icedearth (Zone BBS Addict) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 8:42:29

People have different reasons for lying in a relationship. This can include feeling insecure and somehow inept. Although these things cause people to lie, I'm not in any way condoning such behavior. I also agree with many of the previous posters in that this is an issue you should be discussing with your partner rather then trying to seek sympathy from a public discussion board. If the integrity of a partner is in any way in question, I would think it only fair that questions should be directed to the partner to give him or her fair chance to defend his or her stance.

Post 12 by The Roman Battle Mask (Making great use of my Employer's time.) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 9:45:56

Garret I thought your answer would be stick around until the sex stops, or at least sucks?

Post 13 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 10:05:04

Meka <grin> well, questions such as "is she prettier than me" should always be answered yes, even if it's a lie (a white lie I suppose). There may be little things in a relationships like that which might justify lying at some point I guess.
It's not so much lying as putting things nicely I think. It just makes commonsense not wanting to hurt your partner unnecessarily or create unnecessary insecurities. Even if you saw someone who you consider prettier than her/him it doesn't mean you want to get with them at all but saying "oh he/she is prettier yes but I dono't care" just doesn't sound right, just saying "no, you're the prettiest" may look like a lie but basically is a nicer way of putting the same thing.
Little things like that might justify lying, but it's something one needs to be very careful of and use minimally.
If the truth is important or has any influence on your relationship or is a major issue then truth has to prevail even if it isn't the easy option.
That's at least the only think I can think of that would justify any kind of lying.

Post 14 by ItsJustBabyT (the price is WRONG, bitch!) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 12:55:58

I used to want my guy to tell me the truth all the time. Then...sometimes when I got the truth, like in Wildebrew's post, it hurt. I have then decided that I only want the whole truth when it's important, like cheating and such. I don't like liars, but yeah sometimes it is necessary. ButI have to trust my boyfriend, if I don't trust him, then no I can't be in love with him.

Post 15 by yankee g wolverine (Account disabled) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 13:49:39

good point tricia
jared...normally it would...but for some reason, my soft side came out...shoot me

Post 16 by tear drop (No longer looking for a prince, merely a pauper with potential!!!!!) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 14:23:36

wasn't trying to gain sympathy, just posed the question

Post 17 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Monday, 24-Jul-2006 20:48:37

that's exactly what i'm talking about wb.

Post 18 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2006 8:36:57

Straight away because that is psychological abuse and it may not stop there.

Post 19 by Austin's Angel (move over school!) on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2006 12:44:35

*shoots Garrett. there, happy?

Post 20 by Rune Knight (Ancient Demon - Darkness will always conquer Light!) on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2006 20:23:26

A relationship is very much indeed all about the trust of one another. If you can't trust your partner, then why the hell are you with him or her to begin with if your so insecure about yourself? I know alot of us on here have been through painful relationships and lost the urge to trust again, but we all must move on because every person is different along with their personalities. That's why I'll always give my future partners a chance to be trusted until I've been proven otherwise, however you can only take one day at time and find out what yoru future holds for you whether it is good or bad. Whether a relationship turns good or bad there's always a lesson to be learned from it all.

Post 21 by starfly (99956) on Sunday, 30-Jul-2006 11:49:41

I felt the need to post here don't know why. I have been in a relationship that was did not have much trust at all. From experence I can say its not wurth the pain and heartake that get created. It can push a person to not turst any way at all. Sometimes that person becomes an ass toward any "Male or Female." This happens because of there passed relationship where they were hurt. However, I belive a person who has been through such a relationship should work on giving another person a chance knowing its gona bee hard.

Post 22 by tear drop (No longer looking for a prince, merely a pauper with potential!!!!!) on Friday, 18-Aug-2006 17:10:27

I'd have to agree, I felt, that I tried all I could, and none of it seemed to get through to him.
I guess the saying goes, you've don't know what you've got until it's gone.....

Post 23 by psychic teacher (I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS) on Monday, 11-Sep-2006 15:34:28

Well,, it is probably better if you try and just stay as calm as you can. Show him that you are strong and try not to show any weakness in front of him, because that way he would start thinking about what he does and maybe reevaluate and decide on what it is that he needs and wants. This is especially true for guys and girls whose habits are to lie and cheat their partners that this can work out on.

Post 24 by tear drop (No longer looking for a prince, merely a pauper with potential!!!!!) on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2006 4:31:17

I'd have to agree, but the relationship is very much over, I feel nothing but sadness, and emptiness when I think of him.
I feel nothing but numb.
What once was there is no longer.

Post 25 by Siriusly Severus (The ESTJ 1w9 3w4 6w7 The Taskmaste) on Wednesday, 17-Jun-2009 2:14:46

If they don't have a rational or rather a very strong rational for there lie I won't stand through the first one. I think criticisms are fine, but mistrust, I don't want mistrust.